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Posted 28 June 2008 - 07:14 AM

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View Postsharpshooter93, on Jun 28 2008, 09:06 AM, said:

Crazier than getting thump tacks in your head, or losing your ear, or Falling of the top of a HIAC into a Table, then falling through a HIAC.
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Posted 28 June 2008 - 10:23 AM

Travis. I never said it's bad. But you shouldn't be making judgements if you haven't seen other promotions.

Jaacass, Jeff still hasn't done crap. You still haven't proved crap. Shawn Michaels, no way. No chancce. Not at all close to the likes of Necro Butcher. Flair, no. He's more mental crazy than spot crazy. Jaac, you just spam there, because you have no response.

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Posted 28 June 2008 - 02:02 PM

rofl, he indies and etc geek with no life acting big on codex, rofl

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Posted 28 June 2008 - 02:41 PM

Again, you hide behind flames because you don't know what you are talking about. We both know that Jeff isn't nearly as crazy as Necro or Foley.

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Posted 28 June 2008 - 04:17 PM

He can't think of a decent come back bless him.

Foley is a crazy person when it comes to hardcore. Losing a ear ? Falling of a high cell ? Millions of chairshots ?

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Posted 28 June 2008 - 04:19 PM

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But, Foley is insane. As stated. From Cells, to tacks, to teeth in noses, to The King Of The Deathmatch. He is truly one of the craziest.

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Posted 28 June 2008 - 05:53 PM

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Travis. I never said it's bad. But you shouldn't be making judgements if you haven't seen other promotions.
Yeah, that's called discrimination. I haven't seen any other promotions, so I'm not entitled to make my own judgement? I've not tasted every brand of chocolate so I can't say that Galaxy Caramel's are my favourite? Sorry, but that's just wrong in every possible way. I don't think he's right for flaming, I don't think either of you are right in any way. But to say he can't make a judgement because he hasn't seen it all. Bah to that! I make my calls based on whatever I've seen. I won't judge anyone because they've seen indie stuff, heck I commend you for sitting through the awful quality of production, but I judge what I've seen, just as he's done. Nothing wrong with that. The only thing wrong is the way you've both approached this. If you guys have issues, leave them to personal messages or somethin'.

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Posted 28 June 2008 - 05:57 PM

I don't think it's wrong, not like that. You shouldn't say that someone is the ____est of all time if you've only seen one thing. I mean, saying WWE is the best, because it's all you have seen is wrong. You wouldn't say that a baseball team is the best if that's all you've seen, Why say it for a wrestler?

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Posted 28 June 2008 - 06:06 PM

View Postphoenixsplash630, on Jun 28 2008, 05:57 PM, said:

I don't think it's wrong, not like that. You shouldn't say that someone is the ____est of all time if you've only seen one thing. I mean, saying WWE is the best, because it's all you have seen is wrong. You wouldn't say that a baseball team is the best if that's all you've seen, Why say it for a wrestler?
I don't watch any baseball, so I fail to see the analogy. Besides, yes I would say that they're the best, because its all I've seen. My perspective may not be as wide, but I am still entitled to my opinion. Let me put it in a way I can understand. Brazil are one of the biggest teams in football in the entire world. Yet, I've never seen Kazakhstan play football. Now, am I not allowed to make a judgement based on the fact that I have seen Brazil? Brazil are clearly the better side at football. I don't see the big deal. I haven't watched the CZW stuff, big deal, I can still make calls based on what I've seen. I'm sure as hell you haven't seen every single wrestling promotion, so I say to you that you can't judge because you haven't seen everything yet. Same thing completely.

Don't discriminate. If there's one thing I hate, its that. You can't knock somebody because they don't watch stuff, and you can't deny them their right of free speech. That is what is wrong.

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Posted 28 June 2008 - 06:13 PM

Then say Brazil is the best of what you've seen. But, don't say they are the best of all time. If you think Mick Foley is the craziest (which he may be) that you've seen, say that. If you like WWE, since it's all you have seen. Say it is the best of what you have seen. Do not say it is the best of all time. I haven't seen every promotion, but I have seen a wide variety, not just WWE. If you have seen only WWE say ____ is the craiest IN WWE. Not in history.

I'm not trying to take away your opinions, and you are entitled to say what you want. Within the forum rules.

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Posted 29 June 2008 - 02:26 AM

View Postphoenixsplash630, on Jun 28 2008, 06:13 PM, said:

Then say Brazil is the best of what you've seen. But, don't say they are the best of all time. If you think Mick Foley is the craziest (which he may be) that you've seen, say that. If you like WWE, since it's all you have seen. Say it is the best of what you have seen. Do not say it is the best of all time. I haven't seen every promotion, but I have seen a wide variety, not just WWE. If you have seen only WWE say ____ is the craiest IN WWE. Not in history.

I'm not trying to take away your opinions, and you are entitled to say what you want. Within the forum rules.
Tbh, that's not what it sounds like to me. To me it sounds like, if you don't watch Japanese and Indie stuff, then your opinions are meaningless in comparison to yours because you are superior because you've watched it. That's what it sounds like to me, so yes, it seems as though you are trying to take away the opinions of others.

So, you haven't seen all the indies, but because you've seen some, then you're allowed to say, and we're not? If the whole world worked like that, we'd be screwed. I'm sure there's tonnes of guys who haven't watched them, they're still allowed opinions, and you're wanting to minimise that because you seem to have this feeling of superiority because you watch the little parts of wrestling that don't matter.

So, I will still say Mick Foley is the craziest wrestler of all time, and Big Fat Chicken can still say Jeff Hardy is the craziest. Its all opinion, and its a tiny internet forum, we're not here to belittle other people, because quite frankly that annoys the shit outta me. We're just here to say and discuss, not make them feel like crap by making them sound inferior. Because, while it may not seem like it to you, from this side of the computer screen that's exactly what it feels like.

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Posted 29 June 2008 - 10:35 AM

Well, I'm not dude. I don't think I can explain it much better than my last post.

Jaac can't say Jeff, because he, provides no reasons. Plus, if you can't handle people disagreeing with you, you shouldn't be in this forum. This forum is argueing and debating. That could go to both of you. Although, Travis you did provide reasons, thus I applaud you.

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Posted 29 June 2008 - 10:54 AM

View Postphoenixsplash630, on Jun 29 2008, 10:35 AM, said:

Well, I'm not dude. I don't think I can explain it much better than my last post.

Jaac can't say Jeff, because he, provides no reasons. Plus, if you can't handle people disagreeing with you, you shouldn't be in this forum. This forum is argueing and debating. That could go to both of you. Although, Travis you did provide reasons, thus I applaud you.
As a neutral spectator, you're both in the wrong here. Even if he's trolling, you shouldn't respond, it makes it easier for him, and that makes you both as bad as each other. Just ignore it and walk away. I mean, did you really have to say "way to spam". I'm sure there's moderators for a reason, and by responding to him, you're adding fuel to the fire. Its an internet forum, it doesn't matter if somebody says something stupid when there's other people to sort it out for you. Message a staff member if you have a problem, I'm sure that's one of the rules.

Edited by Travis J, 29 June 2008 - 10:55 AM.


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Posted 29 June 2008 - 10:58 AM

I have messaged staff for Jaac, six or seven times actually. But, he provides no reasons, at all. I was asking for and giving reasons.

In the wrestling forums, things can get heated. That's how it works really. It's the point to reply and ask questions. I'll admit, way to spam, was because I don't like the guy. Plain and simple. Now, let's get back to topic please.

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Posted 29 June 2008 - 11:04 AM

View Postphoenixsplash630, on Jun 29 2008, 10:58 AM, said:

I have messaged staff for Jaac, six or seven times actually. But, he provides no reasons, at all. I was asking for and giving reasons.
Also, you said "at least you backed up your reasons". Well, lets be fair to the kid, he did. At least as much as me in my first post:

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I'd say Jeff hardy, hes made some very high scary jumps and it was worth it. Very Crazy

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It can only be Mick Foley. He fell from Hell in a Cell, and did loads to his body, got up, did it again, got concussed on a chair, then stood up and took two thumbtacks shots. Death matches aren't really that good, to be honest, but Foley was the master and always has been.
We both said a guy and said why. Where's the difference. Be fair to the kid, 'cause right now you're letting emotions cloud your judgement. Sure he flamed and all that crap, but just leave it for other people and simply discuss with other people. It takes a real man to walk away. Not picking anybody out in particular, but all these guys made similar posts with a guy and then an explanation, similar to the Big Chicken guy:

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IMO Sabu since he made a lot of crazt things under Extreme Rules

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I would say Mick Foley and Sabu those guys have done some crazy things in the past.
Which is no different to:

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I'd say Jeff hardy, hes made some very high scary jumps and it was worth it. Very Crazy

But you calling him out for that, its not surprising he reacted poorly, even if it was wrong of him as well. Plus the fact you called him out, and not say, TheRob, who also said Jeff Hardy and said no more than Big Chicken Man. Yeah, you really need to be careful, because you fed him what he needed to fight. You let personal issues get in the way.

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Posted 29 June 2008 - 11:09 AM

I agreed with the others reasons, so I did not challenge them. I do not agree with Jaac's reasons, as jumping off of a ladder isn't very crazy. So, I challenged the reasons. It's how wrestling discussion works.
We argue and debate, it's what happens. You seem to think it's because of some personal thing. If it was, it seems as though I hate everyone on this board, which I don't.

Did you read Rob's post right? He said Jeff really hasn't done anything compared to Foley, if I remember correctly.

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Posted 29 June 2008 - 11:12 AM

View Postphoenixsplash630, on Jun 29 2008, 11:09 AM, said:

Did you read Rob's post right? He said Jeff really hasn't done anything compared to Foley, if I remember correctly.

TheRob said:

If you're talking about delusional crazy, then honorable mention goes to Warrior Warrior.

If you're talking about stunt wise, then I guess we could go with guys like Mick Foley, Jeff Hardy, etc.

I know how discussions work, but you responded to his flames. That's not discussion, at all. Saying "he's not done crap" isn't discussion. Sorry, you're both in the wrong here. End.

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Posted 29 June 2008 - 11:18 AM

You need to read it all. I give reasons. My responses have reasons to the point. Most of them anyways. Read Rob's later post. How he claimed how Jeff hasn't done anything. Disregarding that thing. I said Jeff hasn't done crap, because I have had pages and pages of debate saying why I think so, and he knows that. You fail to realise what I am saying here, I give reasons for all choices pretty much. I back them up. If you can't back it up, and take things personal, stay out of the forums. This goes for all.

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Posted 29 June 2008 - 11:22 AM

Bah, flame each other to your heart's content, I won't care, might even be entertaining. Just remember that you're both in the wrong. Him for trolling, you for responding. You want to kill each other, that's fine, I'm just warning you guys.

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Posted 29 June 2008 - 11:27 AM

I was responding, since it is WRESTLING DISCUSSION. I was trying to get a good reason or point out of him, so there could be a logical debate. Besides, his trolling, isn't much different then what you did. But, glad this is over. Let's get back to the topic at hand.

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Posted 29 June 2008 - 09:24 PM

I leave the topic for a bit and my words keep getting brought up. Heh. Well, let's see I originally listed Jeff basically because I blanked, it's really that simple sadly. I originally listed New Jack because I accidentally skipped the part in Phoenixsplash's original post that said not to mention him since he was an obvious choice. It kind of threw me off because I had to go back and get rid of everything I said about New Jack, which was actually quite a bit, and so I just left it at that.

Is Jeff daring? You bet. But crazy? Nah, I wouldn't actually go that far. I've acknowledged that it takes balls to do what he does, however it's really nothing compared to what Mick Foley, or really most of the people listed in here, has done. There really is no arguing that.


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Posted 29 June 2008 - 09:26 PM

Exactly. I also didn't challenge Rob saying Jeff, really, because I didn't see it. Otherwise I would have done the same thing.

Agreed. He isn't nearly as crazy as the others on this list.

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Posted 03 July 2008 - 12:19 PM

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Posted 03 July 2008 - 12:21 PM

Lack of reasons there, but he really is one of the craziest.

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Posted 03 July 2008 - 12:21 PM

Lack of reasons there, but he really is one of the craziest.

EDIT: I hate this stupid lag.

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