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[Socom]

If MGS4 goes on the 360 my PS3 is going on Ebay. It is easy to fit MGS4 on 360:

1) The new feature that allows us to install games on are hard drive.
2) They could always let us download some of the game remember Tomb Raider
3: Two discs wouldn't hurt as TheRob said

Remember Resident Evil 4 being exclusive on Gamecube.

[O-Yama³]

MGS4 will never be on 360, you think Sony will allow there 1 decent exclusive to be ported? hell ****ing no, whatever kojima is developing after MGS4 I don't know but I'm sure that wont be a PS3 exclusive, but definetly MGS4 will not be making an appearance on 360 and I say that with confidence, I just say, keep wishing 360 owners just keep ****ing wishing.

If PS3 game developers put as much effort into their games as kojima did then PS3 games will be flying of the shelves and so would the systems and thats if Sony can keep the rights to them of course, they must be pretty skint and unable to afford the rights after they lost 3billion.

[Tommy]

In my opinion (I'd like to think i was entitled to one) The ps3 beats the Xbox
I bought one becasue it had games I wanted and games that were coming out for it. PLUS, nearly everyone i know as had a problem with their 360 in one form or another. (The one that didnt sold his to someone else).

I have always been a fan of the Sony products and never really wanted a 360. It twisted my arm on several occasions (IE games coming out sooner) but im happy with what i have. And on this occasion, i've completed UT3 and downloaded the extra maps on PS3. Its just out / still not out for 360.

[AntiChrist Superstar]

TheRob, on Jul 15 2008, 02:30 AM, said:

Black 2? Since when was that an exclusive? The original wasn't even exclusive to Sony it was released on the XBox as well. Anyway, I wouldn't consider Black 2 a "WOW!!!" game, it was just your average, albeit great looking (for the time), shooter. They'd have to really improve the game to convince me into purchase the sequel.

Anyway, you can add MGS4 to that list too. It'll happen eventually. Just wait. Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots *insert "Sub" something word here*

o yea huh?? i just searched up "PS3 exclusives lost" and some guy wrote a list with Black 2 on it..i thought it looked wierd

[Sergio]

Tornado, on Jul 17 2008, 03:57 PM, said:

In my opinion (I'd like to think i was entitled to one) The ps3 beats the Xbox
I bought one becasue it had games I wanted and games that were coming out for it. PLUS, nearly everyone i know as had a problem with their 360 in one form or another. (The one that didnt sold his to someone else).

I have always been a fan of the Sony products and never really wanted a 360. It twisted my arm on several occasions (IE games coming out sooner) but im happy with what i have. And on this occasion, i've completed UT3 and downloaded the extra maps on PS3. Its just out / still not out for 360.

I respect your opinion, but you sound like you love Sony too much to take the 360 seriously or give it the credit it deserves.

1. The 360 has a lot more games than PS3. You want to talk about the long run? Then buy a PS3 later on in it's life cycle when the long run comes and you have more games to choose. For the time being, 360 and PS3 have the same major hit titles so it does not matter what console you own. However, it does tell you that what PS3 has, 360 has too. MGS4 alone, while it may be a Godly game, is not enough for the true gamer to just own a PS3 and 1 game and wait for more Godly games. If you bought a PS3 and already knew that you wanted a good amount of games from it, then I'm happy for you. Your purchase was fortunate and to your advantage. I hope you continue to enjoy the future titles that get added to the library. However, you can't knock off 360 just because it isn't "Sony." PS2 fanboys used to always brag about how they had such a large library of games and that was enough to put a smile on their face. Now PS3 fanboys can't say it, but they'll cherish their blu ray to death. In the games aspect, you're better off with a 360 due to the variety of games. If you have a PS3, now is the best time to have one because many games on 360 are also on PS3, so you can enjoy them too.

2. 360 has a superior online experience. Xbox Live is a better service over PSN. There are 360 bundles that even come with a headset. Sony's bundles are only about 40 Gig! 60 Gig! 80 Gig!!! Hard Drives. They don't throw in headsets or anything to tell you that online with PS3 is a treat. Also, unlocking Achievements for your games is a nice touch. It's just gamer points that accumulate based on all the games you play. While it's no big deal, it can sometimes make you play your games more extensively just to gain some personal gaming accomplishments. It is a huge deal to Sony apparently, so if you admire Sony, you might support their decision to borrow the idea with game trophies. Also DLC is a huge deal to a lot of gamers too and 360 has a lot of it. I'm not sure about PS3, but I do know they have DLC too, just no idea to what capacity. I currently know that GTA IV is best served on 360 due to it having exclusive DLC on the 360.

3. Speaking of Gigs... If you want to gloat about who has a bigger one ... you can buy a 120 Gig Hard Drive for your Xbox or buy an Elite Xbox with 120 Gig HDD. Still it's cheaper than a PS3. I'm only saying this in case anyone feels the need to talk smack about Gigs... like it matters much.

4. Media wise, the PS3 uses Blu Ray and apparently it established dominance over HD DVD. Good for them. Sony took a gamble using BR and now they look good having it too. I'm glad for them, but as far as my video game console is concerned, I would not care for having BR on my 360 or PS3. Most gamers who talk shit about PS3 being a God for having BR, don't even have HD Televisions to take advantage of such specifications. They just talk shit, to talk shit. My TV isn't even digital, so really, I don't care for that HD DVD/Blu Ray stuff. Would I love to play my games with superior picture quality? You bet. HD DVD is enough because frankly Blu Ray isn't even that much better looking. The media discs just can contain more data, but the picture quality over HD DVD is not that far ahead.

Also, one must take note that not every PS3 game takes advantage of 60 Gigs of Blu Ray power. Not every PS3 game, or even 50% of them take advantage. So really, besides those fortunate enough to play their games in HD, you're not getting a game full of 60 Gigs of fun.

Any game currently on PS3, even MGS4, can be ported to the 360. Look back to the Xbox/PS2 when they had discs with 4.7 Gigs of storage. There were games on those systems that could be made on a Gamecube's 1.3 Gig mini DVD disc. Resident Evil games always had 2 discs. If MGS4 ever saw the light of day on 360, it could very easily be compressed or put on 2 discs. Don't be fooled by Sony's hype of Blu Ray. I would believe them if they said, you can't play a Blu Ray MGS4 on a 360. That I can believe.

5. 360 has a HDD that can store music that you can listen to during gameplay. PS3 in all it's glory, still can't do that. If you ask me, Sony sold you an incomplete console because that feature is possible, but not yet released. And what about HOME? Why did they come up with that so late in the PS3's development that it could not be a launch feature? If you ask me, 360 was out for 1 full year and Sony felt the pressure. So they started conjuring up ideas to sell to you so you can buy their product before their features were available.

6. The Rings of Death! While you may laugh and think you're superior for having a PS3 and not having it die like the early 360's, you can try and grow up a bit. It took me 20 minutes to get my Xbox 360 replaced when it died. I went to Best Buy and said it died. They gave me a new Xbox fresh out the box. I went home and got my game on. The problem with most people having to wait 1 or 2 months for getting their Xbox fixed is due to them gambling with a high priced product and not spending the extra money on warranty. Like I said, it took me 20 minutes to go to the store and get a new one. Warranty is a smart investment when you pay for high priced goods.

7. If you own a PS3, good for you. If you own a 360, good for you. If you own both, lucky *******. The point is, console wars are stupid. No one is getting payed to defend products and the point of these consoles is to play games and have fun. Talking crap about another console is hypocritical of a true gamer. How can you play games on a console and have the face to talk crap about the very same thing you are doing, but on another console? Makes no sense.

Tornado, I want to apologize in advance if anything came off personal. I did not mean for anything to sound personal, but I did say certain things in a "generally speaking" manner. I thought I would share that because I quoted your post and I don't want to cause any miscommunication.

[The Rob]

Metallic Taste, on Jul 17 2008, 04:31 PM, said:

MGS4 will never be on 360, you think Sony will allow there 1 decent exclusive to be ported? hell ****ing no, whatever kojima is developing after MGS4 I don't know but I'm sure that wont be a PS3 exclusive, but definetly MGS4 will not be making an appearance on 360 and I say that with confidence, I just say, keep wishing 360 owners just keep ****ing wishing.

If PS3 game developers put as much effort into their games as kojima did then PS3 games will be flying of the shelves and so would the systems and thats if Sony can keep the rights to them of course, they must be pretty skint and unable to afford the rights after they lost 3billion.

Do you realize exactly how popular the MGS series is? I personally am not too huge of a fan, but it's certainly one of the most popular gaming series in existence. I know Konami knows how much it's worth and that is why I am sure MGS4 will eventually appear on the XBox 360. PS3 fans and such say MGS4 will never be on the 360, and technically they might be right. MGS4 might not ever be on the 360, but MGS4 "Sub"something will be eventually, maybe in like another year or so.

I am so positive of this because of the cash cow that the MGS series is. If Konami were to put MGS4 on the 360 it'd sell left and right, it'd easily make them more money than Sony could afford to dish out to them to keep it an exclusive. Keeping a game such as MGS4 as an exclusive is simply bad business. Sony lost quite a bit of money as it is putting the PS3s together, they most likely could not even afford to pay Konami to keep the game a permanent exclusive. It's the same reason previous exclusives like Devil May Cry lost their exclusivity, because there isn't as much money to be made in keeping the games exclusive anymore. In fact, that's the exact reason Resident Evil 4 is no longer a Game Cube/Nintendo exclusive, it wasn't earning them the amount of money they felt they could earn and they were correct. Because of taking RE4 off the exclusivity list Capcom easily made millions more than they would have is it was left an exclusive to Game Cube/Nintendo. Eventually, and this is just my prediction, the only exclusives will be first party titles and exclusives from developers who may have loyalties to certain companies.

I'm not trying to say this as a XBox fanboy or anything, because I'm not, though I do prefer the 360 over the PS3 by far. It's just facts. People who like to claim it can't be done on the 360 are liars, plain and simple. It can be, period. If the 360 can run Resident Evil 5, which in my opinion looks much better, then the 360 can most certainly run MGS4. The main argument is usually disc space, well, as it has been said before most developers haven't even taken advantage of the amount of space they have to work with and their games in most cases seem larger than they really have to be because they don't even bother to compress a lot of the data on the discs. Another thing, I'm not exactly sure how much space MGS4 takes up, but I can guarantee you that most of that space is simply for cinematics. You compress all of that down and I can guarantee they can fit it on one or two discs for the XBox 360. If it is more than one disc, oh well. Only a truly lazy b@stard (stupid censor) would complain about that.

Honestly, as I said, I'm not a huge MGS fan, so I wouldn't even be disappointed if MGS4 doesn't come to the 360 in some form, however I'm just that confident that it is going to be on there eventually. Like I said, give it a year, maybe two. Just don't be surprised when it is finally announced.

[hulkrulz84]

Alright lets get this straight about MGS4!MGS4 is like Halo series to the PS3 basically!We will never see MGS4 on 360 or see Halo on PS3!Halo is exclusive to 360 & MGS4 is exclusive to PS3!I HOPE!

[O-Yama³]

hulkrulz, on Jul 19 2008, 08:32 AM, said:

Alright lets get this straight about MGS4!MGS4 is like Halo series to the PS3 basically!We will never see MGS4 on 360 or see Halo on PS3!Halo is exclusive to 360 & MGS4 is exclusive to PS3!I HOPE!

I agree, also I heard from a member here that microsoft don't have the rights to Halo no more, so could that mean that future Halo games are released on PS3?

@ The Rob, I see were your coming from but a MGS4 sub anything, wont happen I'm pretty sure, because I just don't see it happening, as I know it, MGS4 was the last with snake in it, so bringing back snake for MGS4 sub something would make no sense especially to the ones that have played it and I think you need to play it to understand that there will be no MGS4 sub anything on 360, but anything is possible.

It probably will make a shit load of money if it got ported over to the 360 and I could say the same about Halo but we PS3 owners never got a Halo sub something so why should 360 get MGS4 sub something, MGS4 is the only game that makes the PS3 worth buying and if MGS4 was to get ported then I'm with Socom my PS3 goes on e-bay and I have a feeling Sony may know this and pay Konami a shit load of $$ to keep it exclusive, sony must know people are not happy with the amount of exclusives.

[The Rob]

hulkrulz, on Jul 19 2008, 03:32 AM, said:

Alright lets get this straight about MGS4!MGS4 is like Halo series to the PS3 basically!We will never see MGS4 on 360 or see Halo on PS3!Halo is exclusive to 360 & MGS4 is exclusive to PS3!I HOPE!

First of all, Microsoft owns the rights to the Halo IP. There is no way it would ever appear on the PS3. However, I honestly couldn't careless even if the PS3 did get it, it's just a mediocre shooter to me. I never understood the love that it received. But, still, Microsoft owns the rights to Halo, so unless they're willing to sell it you'll never see it on PS3.

Sony on the other hand does not own the Metal Gear Solid IP, so it could appear on any other platform Konami wanted it. Hell, if they wanted to they could put a version of it on the Wii. An incredibly dumbed down version, but they could still do it nonetheless if they really wanted to. So, yes, MGS4 can appear on the 360 and if Konami wants it to happen there is nothing Sony can do about it.

Metallic Taste, on Jul 19 2008, 04:33 AM, said:

I agree, also I heard from a member here that microsoft don't have the rights to Halo no more, so could that mean that future Halo games are released on PS3?

@ The Rob, I see were your coming from but a MGS4 sub anything, wont happen I'm pretty sure, because I just don't see it happening, as I know it, MGS4 was the last with snake in it, so bringing back snake for MGS4 sub something would make no sense especially to the ones that have played it and I think you need to play it to understand that there will be no MGS4 sub anything on 360, but anything is possible.

It probably will make a shit load of money if it got ported over to the 360 and I could say the same about Halo but we PS3 owners never got a Halo sub something so why should 360 get MGS4 sub something, MGS4 is the only game that makes the PS3 worth buying and if MGS4 was to get ported then I'm with Socom my PS3 goes on e-bay and I have a feeling Sony may know this and pay Konami a shit load of $$ to keep it exclusive, sony must know people are not happy with the amount of exclusives.

Microsoft still owns the rights to Halo. Bungie is now an independent company, they can develop for any console they wished now. However, Microsoft owns the rights to Halo, so Halo on the PS3 won't happen. They could make a Halo-esq game for the PS3, that's for sure, but not Halo itself. But, then again, Bungie thus fas has not expressed an interest in developing for anyone other than Microsoft, last I heard anyway.

Now, back to MGS4. If they made a Metal Gear Solid 4 "Sub" game it wouldn't be bringing Snake back, it's just MGS4 with extras. Just like MGS3 Subsistence wasn't bringing back Big Boss, it was MGS3 with extras. It would make perfect sense because it's still MGS4, it's not a new game. Have you even played any of the "Sub" versions? They're just the same games with some extra content thrown in, they aren't new games or spin offs. It's still Snake's last game if they make a MGS4 "Sub" game. It does not interfere with the plot at all.

Also, history speaks for itself. MGS use to be a Sony thing, but then MGS1 got remade for the Game Cube, and MGS2 was ported to the XBox in the form of MGS2 Substance. If the XBox hadn't died I'm pretty sure we would have seen MGS3 Subsistence on it as well, but that's just me speculating.

Konami can easily make more money porting it to the 360 than they can from Sony paying them off to keep it exclusive.

Edited by TheRob, 19 July 2008 - 03:01 AM.

[Tommy]

I got burnt ;__;
Its ok Sergio, your right, I am in love with Sony too much. I have played an 360 and yes some memories on XBL will never leave me. But. It was never what i wanted. It was from Microsoft, not Sony. Thus it didnt fill the gaming hole that I had.

Maybe when I move outta here and into my own house, I will buy an XBOX as well.

How did this whole argument start anyways? xD

EDIT: I re-read your post and there are a few things I must say

2nd Paragraph, you mention the achievment system. Its very cool and Sony have came up with a "Trophy" system. It is stolen i must admit as it works on the same bases.

5th Para, you say that the 360 had the Ingame music from the word go. I was annoyed when i found that it wasnt possible to do so, but with all the updates coming im sure one of these days I can listen to music on it ^^

6th Para, Got my warranty on PS3. After the total **** up of my PS2 I wasnt going to have to fork out another £100 / $200 for its replacement. God knows howmuch it would cost with this generation.

Finally, its quite a silly reason. But in the long term, I couldnt have enjoyed the 360. I have smallish hands and cant access all the controls fast enough, nor could i ever get a comfortable grip with it.

Edited by Tornado, 19 July 2008 - 10:04 AM.

[AntiChrist Superstar]

Halo was about to be released on the ps2 back in 01? i think it was 01..plus it would have been a third person shooter

but i dont think MGS4 could be on the 360 for sure it's not an issue about "Fitting the space" or anything like that..


theres some games that some systems arent gonna have or that game doesnt look like it belongs on that console

The Zelda Series-looks best with Nintendo

MGS series-looks best on the playstations

Halo series-looks best on the Xbox's

[The Rob]

AntiChrist Superstar, on Jul 19 2008, 01:08 PM, said:

Halo was about to be released on the ps2 back in 01? i think it was 01..plus it would have been a third person shooter

but i dont think MGS4 could be on the 360 for sure it's not an issue about "Fitting the space" or anything like that..


theres some games that some systems arent gonna have or that game doesnt look like it belongs on that console

The Zelda Series-looks best with Nintendo

MGS series-looks best on the playstations

Halo series-looks best on the Xbox's

Whoa, what in the hell are you talking about? Where do you get this info from? Halo was never, ever going to be on the PS2. Microsoft owned that from practically day one. Bungie actually originally started the game for the PC as a Real-Time Strategy game from a Third Person Perspective around 1999, never the PS2, and eventually switched gears and turned it into a FPS when Microsoft bought them out which let to the current version of Halo being released on XBox in 2001. It was never going to be on the PS2. Actually, the closest it's ever gotten to being on another system, aside from the PC, was a demo Bungie had made of Halo for the Nintendo DS. They were working on a Halo for the DS thinking Microsoft would be okay with it since they allowed them to work on games for the DS in the past, but since Microsoft owns the rights to Halo what they say goes. So at Microsoft's request Halo DS was canned, there is only one copy of the Halo DS demo as far as I know and some gaming journalist got their hands on it and was posting videos of it and such. So that's the closest Halo has ever been to being on another system and that's as far as it will go unless Microsoft sells the rights to the Halo IP or suddenly becomes extremely generous with it.

Also, why do you bring up Halo and Zelda in contrast to MGS? Zelda is owned by Nintendo, it will not appear on any other console, that isn't Nintendo of course, without permission from Nintendo. Same goes for Halo as it is owned by Microsoft. MGS is not owned by Sony and can appear on any console Konami wishes it to appear. Also, how does MGS look best on Playstations? MGS2 Substance actually looked better on the XBox than it did the PS2 and the MGS1 remake looked better on the Game Cube than both MGS1 on the PSone and MGS2 on the PS2, but that's not even relevant. MGS is the only one that can actually go to another console. MGS4 most likely could look just as good on the 360 as it does on the PS3 as well, it looks great, but like I said, it does not look so great that it's outside of the 360's capabilities. Resident Evil 5 looks better in my opinion and the 360 seems to be able to run that just fine.

Edited by TheRob, 19 July 2008 - 11:47 AM.

[AntiChrist Superstar]

by "looking better" i mean its an icon to that system thats why i brought up HALO and zelda to it most people when they think a playstation they thing Metal Gear Solid...MGS is the series that imo got the playstations big..

i HIGHLY doubt MGS4 is gonna be on the 360 but sony does put themself in danger by not owning it or something

lets just put this to rest..... MGS4 won't be on 360 most likely...

and if it does thats ****ed up for sony cuz they might as well give up lol

i remember seeing a HALO game profile for ps2 on some website...IGN?? i cant remember but i saw it and it said release date cancelled..so yea

Edited by AntiChrist Superstar, 19 July 2008 - 02:14 PM.

[Andrew52286]

Your thinking of Halo: Combat Evolved. It was supposed to be published by Rockstar and developed by Bungie. According to IGN in 2000 Take-Two Interactive sold its 20% share of developer Bungie to Microsoft. Thereby solidifying Halo's position as an Xbox and PC exclusive (with a Mac port much, much later on) forever. So, bad move on Take-Twos part, smart move on Microsofts.

[PrettyBoyAJ]

I own a PS3. And I'm 100% satisfied. It keeps me busy and also gives me a good time. Kinda like a hooker but without the moral issues. If you think 360 is better then PS3. Good. Because I'm satisfied for PS3 and I will for a long time.

[The Fallen Angel]

iWish, on Jul 17 2008, 03:53 PM, said:

I own a PS3. And I'm 100% satisfied. It keeps me busy and also gives me a good time. Kinda like a hooker but without the moral issues. If you think 360 is better then PS3. Good. Because I'm satisfied for PS3 and I will for a long time.

I've only owned my PS3 for 2 weeks and I think its the greatest thing in the world. I've been a loyal customer to Sony since PS1, and I got nothing against the 360, I just prefer Sony's product. So what if we lost another exculsive to Microsoft, we got a few more titles to look forward to such as Killzone 2, Resistance 2, God of War III, DC Universe Online, inFamous & M.A.G.

Wasn't BioShock basically a 360 exclusive??? and now PS3 is getting it.

[Andrew52286]

The Fallen Angel, on Jul 20 2008, 10:09 PM, said:

look forward to such as Killzone 2, Resistance 2, God of War III, DC Universe Online, inFamous & M.A.G.

And thats a pretty impressive lineup. Killzone 2 is gonna own. And I sure as hell can't wait to try out M.A.G. 256 players online just sounds crazy, Lol.

[.Jon.]

2008 is the year of PS3.

Cant forget Little Big Planet. That game will be HUGE. Killzone 2 and Resistance 2 look AMAZING. InFamous looks really interesting. DC Universe looks cool i guess. CANT FORGET GOOD 'OL SOCOM! MAG will own too.

Edited by Deadly, 20 July 2008 - 09:21 PM.

[Socom]

2008 year of the PS3 thats very debatable. I have nothing against the PS3 but only one game comes to my mind this year MGS4. Nothing else comes to mind. Anyway Bioshock going to PS3, is really not that great of a game. I remember when it first came out everyone going mad over it. But for me: Storyline Suck and it could old quick. Anyways i'm looking forward to Sonic Unleashed (360), Gears of War 2 thats it. Plus Killzone looks to realistic for my likings. So meh i'll stick with my 360 this year.

Edited by Solidus Socom, 21 July 2008 - 03:45 PM.

[Hargy]

True Sergio And warranty Aint Much Mine Is £1.50 A Month Whats That 3 Dollars, And Im Suprised Anyone hasnt Bought Up Wii lol,

I Love My Wii, But Then Again Im 13

Edited by HARGY, 23 July 2008 - 03:03 PM.

[Sergio]

Tornado, on Jul 19 2008, 05:14 AM, said:

I got burnt ;__;
Its ok Sergio, your right, I am in love with Sony too much. I have played an 360 and yes some memories on XBL will never leave me. But. It was never what i wanted. It was from Microsoft, not Sony. Thus it didnt fill the gaming hole that I had.

Maybe when I move outta here and into my own house, I will buy an XBOX as well.

How did this whole argument start anyways? xD

EDIT: I re-read your post and there are a few things I must say

2nd Paragraph, you mention the achievment system. Its very cool and Sony have came up with a "Trophy" system. It is stolen i must admit as it works on the same bases.

5th Para, you say that the 360 had the Ingame music from the word go. I was annoyed when i found that it wasnt possible to do so, but with all the updates coming im sure one of these days I can listen to music on it ^^

6th Para, Got my warranty on PS3. After the total **** up of my PS2 I wasnt going to have to fork out another £100 / $200 for its replacement. God knows howmuch it would cost with this generation.

Finally, its quite a silly reason. But in the long term, I couldnt have enjoyed the 360. I have smallish hands and cant access all the controls fast enough, nor could i ever get a comfortable grip with it.

Yea I heard that PS3 will soon have that update to listen to custom tracks. SvR09 is being made to support custom tracks on PS3 so hopefully that comes out soon. The achievement thing can be fun and an added drive to push you to accomplish certain tasks you wouldn't have thought to do, but going the extra mile to strive for these accomplishments can sometimes make you feel like you got more for your buck out of the game. It's a cool thing sometime, especially if the developers put in worthwhile achievements. When the trophies come out on PS3, I hope you can enjoy it. I know I will when I get a PS3 sometime in the future.

And I'm glad you were smart to get warranty for the PS3. It's a hefty price to pay for such an expensive product to malfunction. And I'm not bothered at all that the 360 is not your favorite. The good thing about Microsoft, Sony, & Nintendo being around, is that there is something out there for everyone. I love playing video games and I love some of the adventure and storytelling in a lot of games. It's something I appreciate and would love for the world to experience too.

I just don't like it when people go to war over consoles. A lot of people talk smack because they only have 1 console and so they defend it to the death. They trash the others for no reason at all, other than, it's not there's. When I talk smack about a console... it's only because my opinions come from a consumer point of view. I'm a gamer and I know what I want in a gaming machine. I don't talk crap just because I played a Wii for 5 minutes and then decide that that is enough to proclaim it to suck.

I'll admit that when I had a N64, I used to talk smack about PS just because I was only looking forward to an N64. I never stopped to think about what good it is to have another console. I enjoyed playing on the PS, but for some reason, I still chose to talk crap about it. Same for when I had a Gamecube. I talked smack about PS2 and Xbox. It's like whenever someone mentioned how they love their xbox or their PS2, something inside me made me want to defend my Gamecube.

But I'm glad I stopped being stupid. It makes no sense to not enjoy all consoles. There really is no reason to go to war about it. I guess it all comes down to taste. If I say I dislike something in the PS3/Wii/360, there will always be someone to defend that.

[Hargy]

Yes Wii Was Mentioned

[Quacking Quebecer]

Final Fantasy XIII was basically the only reason why I'd consider buying a PS3, so this makes me save a lot of money so I can hold onto my Wii and 360. MGS 4 is the only reason to get a PS3, unless you want a relatively cheap Blu-Ray player. Lol, Killzone 2 - Killzone 1 sucked really badly anyway, so I wouldn't want to play 2.