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Posted 18 May 2008 - 05:42 PM

Even if you do send them something, they won't even read it.

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Posted 18 May 2008 - 06:13 PM

wow no time for the fans.thats ignorance defenitly

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Posted 18 May 2008 - 07:18 PM

Most Under Apprieciated Wrestler to me would go to Randy Savage & Curt Hennig. IMO Curt Hennig was one of the best in ring performers in wrestling history & also a great heel, but he was never rewarded in either WWF or WCW with a World Championship.

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Posted 18 May 2008 - 08:13 PM

How about Rikishi? he nvr got a chance and he was good in both mic skillz, ring performance and promos

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Posted 18 May 2008 - 08:16 PM

View PostBlood On The Sand, on May 18 2008, 10:13 PM, said:

How about Rikishi? he nvr got a chance and he was good in both mic skillz, ring performance and promos

Rikishi was one of my favorite wrestlers at the time. Sure his ring skills were kind of limiting. But he was always entertaining. He could play to the crowd, sell moves perfectly, and he was such a good heel. This guy was a great heel, his size part of it. But the way he wrestled as a heel was just perfect.

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Posted 18 May 2008 - 08:42 PM

lol @ only WWE/F & WCW guys in here

Joey Ryan: This guy is gold plain and simple but WWE doesn't seem to pick him up after all three of his appearances in WWE. (Smackdown Twice & Velocity Once) But only going by what he gets credit for he is far from under appreciated.

Charlie Haas: He is phenomenal in ring and never gets credit for it that I see.

Val Venis: He has everything, the gimmick, the skills. I really have no clue why he's not main eventing.

Jerry Lawler (Just Lately): He had to sit on the sideline and call Ric Flair the greatest when in fact it could very well be Jerry. It pisses me off.

Elix Skipper: I just don't feel he gets enough credit, of coarse I've never brought it up to discussion.

I think thats about it for now.

Edited by Gregory Alan, 18 May 2008 - 08:43 PM.


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Posted 18 May 2008 - 09:05 PM

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Charlie Haas: He is phenomenal in ring and never gets credit for it that I see.

Maybe if he could get someone in the crowd to care about him... just sayin'.

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Jerry Lawler (Just Lately): He had to sit on the sideline and call Ric Flair the greatest when in fact it could very well be Jerry. It pisses me off.

King could play a good heel, but he wasn't impressive at all in the ring.

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lol @ only WWE/F & WCW guys in here

To be fair it's kind of hard for Indy guys to be the most under appreciated in history, though Jerry Lynn never got the credit he deserved.

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Posted 18 May 2008 - 09:19 PM

View PostGregory Alan, on May 16 2008, 02:42 PM, said:

lol @ only WWE/F & WCW guys in here

Joey Ryan: This guy is gold plain and simple but WWE doesn't seem to pick him up after all three of his appearances in WWE. (Smackdown Twice & Velocity Once) But only going by what he gets credit for he is far from under appreciated.

Charlie Haas: He is phenomenal in ring and never gets credit for it that I see.

Val Venis: He has everything, the gimmick, the skills. I really have no clue why he's not main eventing.

Jerry Lawler (Just Lately): He had to sit on the sideline and call Ric Flair the greatest when in fact it could very well be Jerry. It pisses me off.

Elix Skipper: I just don't feel he gets enough credit, of coarse I've never brought it up to discussion.

I think thats about it for now.

Charlie Haas has been one of my favourite wrestlers ever since WGTT. This guy actually has protencial to become a champion but WWE will always hold him back until his release. They make fools out of great wrestlers.

Val Venis is another good wrestler (don't know about the porn star gimmick being great though)

Elix Skipper seems to only compete when XXX is around, but I doubt there ever coming back again to TNA. He was with David Young & Simon Diamond for a while but that never got him anywhere. Its a shame since he is one of the best X-Division stars but has never won the X-Division Title.

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Posted 18 May 2008 - 09:29 PM

Heres my people:
Shelton Benjamin
John Morrison
Cody Rhodes (IMO he should get a push to feud with Jericho for the IC Championship)
Kennedy (I say right now I can see him as World Champion)

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Posted 18 May 2008 - 10:45 PM

Maybe if he could get someone in the crowd to care about him... just sayin'.

I care about the dude. :P

King could play a good heel, but he wasn't impressive at all in the ring.

I don't know what to say. I just wonder what you were on when you watched him wrestle best in his day.


To be fair it's kind of hard for Indy guys to be the most under appreciated in history, though Jerry Lynn never got the credit he deserved.

True, I suppose.

Charlie Haas has been one of my favourite wrestlers ever since WGTT. This guy actually has protencial to become a champion but WWE will always hold him back until his release. They make fools out of great wrestlers.

Yeah, I know. Its sad.

Val Venis is another good wrestler (don't know about the porn star gimmick being great though)

I'm just partial to it cause its funny and well played from him.

Elix Skipper seems to only compete when XXX is around, but I doubt there ever coming back again to TNA.

Yeah, which is really sad. I doubt they will seeing as Christopher Daniels left for
Spoiler
and Senshi quit.

Its a shame since he is one of the best X-Division stars but has never won the X-Division Title.
He really is. I just wanna see him, AJ, Daniels, and Sanjay (I don't like the gimmick but he is good) in a match and go balls to the wall.

Edited by Gregory Alan, 18 May 2008 - 10:45 PM.


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Posted 19 May 2008 - 03:33 AM

To the people who say the likes of Val Venis, Charlie Haas and Cody Rhodes, the reason they're never pushed is because they get no reaction. People complain about Cena being champion, but the fact is that Cena wasn't pushed to the moon to start with, he took it slowly, and built a fan base off his amazing rap gimmick. The fans ate it up, and he moves a ton of merchandise. That's why Vince pushes him. Then the "rebels" who hate Cena say "screw this, I'm gonna buy a Randy Orton shirt", so Cena sells merch and his opponent sells merch and Vince is sitting there going "MONEY!!! BWAHAHAA". Guys like Charlie Haas can't get heat at all. I remember when they brought him back in 2006, for a "blowoff" match with Benjamin, and it was supposed to be this big deal, and Haas came out to no reaction.

If you get no reaction, it doesn't matter how good a wrestler you are (and Haas is very good), nobody cares anyway. I suppose that an mean he's underappreciated by fans, but definitely not by promoters.

Rikishi matches, weren't that good. His best string of matches came in 2000 when he was facing Eddie Guerrero, Dean Malenko and Chris Benoit every week for god's sake! When he turned heel he got no reaction, even after running down Austin, nobody bought him as a viable heel, and he was only over in Too Cool.

But my sanity is kept by the person who said Curt Hennig. God bless you! Hennig really should have made my first list ... best seller of all time, and rather easily as well. Brian Pillman's pretty underrated too.

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 03:53 AM

The most under rated is prolly Randy Savage. I think he had the greatest gimmick of all time, and his maches were always top notch.

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 04:03 AM

View Postsharpshooter93, on May 17 2008, 07:53 AM, said:

The most under rated is prolly Randy Savage. I think he had the greatest gimmick of all time, and his maches were always top notch.

ive read somewhere, that your not aloued to bring any signs to do with savage. does anybody no if this is true? and if so, why?

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 04:05 AM

I know Vince hates Savage because he slept with Steph. Maybe thats why.

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 04:59 AM

I'm pleased by the Savage love around here :)

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 10:56 AM

To the people who say the likes of Val Venis, Charlie Haas and Cody Rhodes, the reason they're never pushed is because they get no reaction.

I know thats why for Charlie but Val always gets a decent pop.

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 12:23 PM

val venic was a great competitor in wwf but now they treat him like garbage putting him in monsterous matches like vs mark henry or big daddy v? i mean cmon wtf.ruining his rep and skillz, as far as charlie haas goes, i see him as a intercontinental champion in no time

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 12:36 PM

View PostBlood On The Sand, on May 19 2008, 12:23 PM, said:

as far as charlie haas goes, i see him as a intercontinental champion in no time
Over Jeff Hardy, Chris Jericho, Ken Kennedy, William Regal, Umaga? They all generate the sort of heat that Charlie Haas couldn't even dream of, which is why nobody pushes him. That's why he's on heat with Jim Duggan, because nobody really cares about him because he's just a one dimensional character with the only skill that separates him from most other wrestlers is the fact he has "anti-charisma", the ability to kill the heat of any match.

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 01:34 PM

He started out as the bad guy, with the "You suck in Kurt Angles team" Maybe thats what screwed him up, but i hope he returns to raw with an impact !!

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 01:36 PM

View PostBlood On The Sand, on May 19 2008, 03:34 PM, said:

He started out as the bad guy, with the "You suck in Kurt Angles team" Maybe thats what screwed him up, but i hope he returns to raw with an impact !!

Why would debuting as a heel ruin your career?

Haas isn't big, because he lacks charisma, and has a very small fan-base. He probably won't make an impact any time soon.

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 01:39 PM

No I'm saying maybe that's what screwed him up, he lacks alot of charisma as well as fan support, maybe...just maybe if he started out as a hero (Like maybe against Kurt Angle) he would've of course started an impact and at the same time of course would've had "Some" Charisma/Support.

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 01:48 PM

That's done in the ring regardless of your heel/face position.

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 01:56 PM

Maybe you just don't get me, whatever I just hope Charlie Haas gets a chance t rise up.

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 10:27 PM

Many guys are still well liked by fans even when there heels. Charlie Haas just hasn't gotten the opportunity to be something. The reason why Haas & Benjamin were teamed with Angle were to make them into future stars (kind of like Evolution), after WGTT split up, the WWE tagged Haas up with Rico then with Hardcore Holly. After that he was released then returned to RAW a while after, where he was to feud with Benjamin but the WWE decided to make them WGTT again, but they were now a jobber tag team losing to guys like Jim Duggan & Super Crazy. The WWE once again split up WGTT and now Haas is stuck on the best brand but is buried on HEAT with Snitsky & The Highlanders. With Shark Boy copying Stone Cold in TNA, the WWE decided to make Haas a fool and wear a mask. They really need to repackage Haas and either put him on ECW or SD! because I think he deserves better then this (ex: Sean O'Haire, Mark Jindrak both had a bright future in the WWE and probably would have become World Champ down the line, but the WWE never pushed them, because they don't see opportunity)

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 10:36 PM

Exactly WWE always seems to push the wrong stars only to either get a slap in the face or to get complaints about how they over use the same wrestlers again and again, the only reason Cody Rhodes is in the WWE is because of his father, as far as bright future goes he has a long way, and as far as skill goes I really can't see him getting too far in that field either, Haas has amazing skill but has no charisma as well as Benjamin, if WWE actually took the time to write descent, none repetitive storylines the fans would actually care.......