R.V.D. in T.N.A.
#1
Posted 25 January 2007 - 07:35 PM
#3
Posted 25 January 2007 - 08:20 PM
#4
Posted 25 January 2007 - 08:53 PM
#5
Posted 25 January 2007 - 09:25 PM
rvd had his chance and honestly he ****ed it up...he finally got his BIG PUSH...wwe AND ecw world champion Simultaneously and he goes and gets busted w/ pot...
he should have known his push would be taken away...its pretty simple rvd screwed rvd...im sure he'd still be ecw champ right now and might even be in the world title match @ wm...
if rvd does go to tna it wont be any different than now imo except he'll have a title belt or be in contention for the belt
#6
Posted 25 January 2007 - 09:34 PM
Brcherres, on Jan 25 2007, 08:53 PM, said:
Edited by EvilMadness, 25 January 2007 - 09:37 PM.
#7
Posted 25 January 2007 - 10:20 PM
By the way for all you people who want to rag on POT, Vince is an ex steroid user, his company's biggest success in the 70's and 80's was built on steroid users. Anabolic steroids being shot into your body is far worse than smoking a cannabanoid. (Pot) And just so you know, Randy Orton was suspended for 30 days last year for getting caught smoking a joint...And now he is being considered for the WrestleMania Main Event...Again....Why? Cause it was never made public, and he wasnt the WWE champion at the time....He didnt make the company look bad, therefore he gets to get a push.....While Rob Van Dam is denied it.
Tell me why the hell RVD should stay? All they have done was hold him back, give him the worst push they could.....Pissed on the very thing he loved more than his carreer itself (ECW), and have now pretty much told him, he will never get another opritunity to wear the strap. **** WWE, I cant wait to see him pop up in TNA....This isnt just a possibility, it's a probability....And it's just a matter of time before RVD becomes Mr. Thrusday Night!
#8
Posted 25 January 2007 - 11:11 PM
#9
Posted 25 January 2007 - 11:53 PM
By the way DTTM i like your sig the Bam Bam Bigolow with the "RVD WWE wont Give you A Push go to...TNA"
thats great and i agree RVD should go and he should have been In TNA along time ago.
#10
Posted 26 January 2007 - 12:11 AM
#11
Posted 26 January 2007 - 05:36 PM
#12 Guest_Stu_*
Posted 26 January 2007 - 05:42 PM
#13
Posted 26 January 2007 - 06:35 PM
Stu, on Jan 26 2007, 05:42 PM, said:
you sound like you want TNA to be another WCW... do you think TNA will ever be that good to go again WWE...i think RVD would help that come to pass i was young when WCW was around i didn't really watch wreslting during the 90's like other people did...this would give me a chance to see WWE go agains another Big Company like in the 90's lol...plus RVD would have a better chance at a major titles like the NWA title lol...yeah he had a chance in WWE but he missed up thats the pasted...if WWE holds him to that this long i would like about TNA to...i would get him one last chance at a Major WWE title and if he missed up again than i would let him go
#14
Posted 26 January 2007 - 06:52 PM
like i said what has rvd done in the ring that hasnt been done before he went to wwe...
like stu said he's a spot monkey...I like rvd and all but he doesn't deserve a major title run...obviously vince doesnt see enough potential in him to give him another chance...
why should vince make him champion when he's threatning to leave the company once his contract runs out??
when was the last time taker was champ?? is he saying he's leaving to tna??
how about flair?? the last world title he had was back when wwe was wwF...he's not leaving to tna...
RVD needs to step up his game and stop being selfish...his time has come and gone imo and he needs to help make future stars for this business...
why is it that some of these folks up in wwe feel they need the world title to prove how great they are...
rvd will go to tna get his title shot and then tna will pick someone else up and move rvd back to the mid-card...
rhino, team 3d, james gang, killings all were main eventers or close to it when they joined tna but a couple years later where are they?? mid-card
james gang tried making a name for themselves by bashin vince and d-x but that didnt work so now there feuding w/ another wwe reject christy hemme
team 3d has lost any credibility by putting on piss poor performances and ray obviously doesnt care about staying in shape as apparent by his HUGE gut...
killings was a tna champ but now he's just a tna jobber
rhino never even got the world title and he's another mid-carder
angle will get the belt and eventually injure himself taking himself out of the sport(he's allready lost his mind anyways)
christian will be a mid-carder by june or july
the same fate will bestow rvd...mybe if he gets his act together and shows he can step up his game and remain true to wwe and vince he'll get his spotlight back...
#15
Posted 27 January 2007 - 12:33 PM
#16 Guest_Stu_*
Posted 27 January 2007 - 12:44 PM
Bandit The Show Stealer, on Jan 27 2007, 06:33 PM, said:
#17
Posted 28 January 2007 - 04:35 PM
#18
Posted 29 January 2007 - 04:08 PM
RVD gave evrything he had to his fans in ECW, and did everything he could in WWE, just for them to finally put him over 5 years later in the worst way possible to some guy who cant even distinguish a hammerlock from an armbar. Cena is at the top of the WWE after 3 years, and RVD gets shit on after 5....**** the WWE, why should he have to prove himself to someone who never gave a **** to begin with.
#19 Guest_Stu_*
Posted 29 January 2007 - 04:13 PM
dttm667, on Jan 29 2007, 10:08 PM, said:
#20
Posted 29 January 2007 - 07:18 PM
Really stu, I expected more from someone like you.....To at least be able to see through the farce that is the WWE champion.
#21
Posted 29 January 2007 - 09:34 PM
dttm667, on Jan 27 2007, 01:18 PM, said:
Really stu, I expected more from someone like you.....To at least be able to see through the farce that is the WWE champion.
because every rvd match is different with tons of innovative moves...whens the last time rvd even put on a good match that didnt involve spots..NEVER...rvd is a glorified spot monkey w/ some degree of talent...he does not deserve to be @ the top when guys like orton, edge, kennedy etc. are working there asses off to be where they are today..wwe is ENTERTAINMENT..want wrestling, go watch roh...
want a credible champion watch roh...none of the champs in the wwe are credible anymore...not even helms cuz he's not being pushed as someone to reckon with, why, because the cw division has been dead for years..
cena=ratings and $$ and thats what the wwe wants in a world champ..see batista, hogan, warrior, austin, rock, andre, slaughter, yokozuna, big show, sid, goldberg see a trend here?? either be great on the mic and have sub-par in ring skills or be a monster and you'll get the belt eventually...
cena has done a damn good job @ being champ...he's credible..granted im sick and tired of him being champ but he's obviously doing something right or else he wouldnt get pushed..
obviously rvd isnt doing anything right which is why he's being buried..
rvd has had other titles in the wwe but the only effin reason he even got both belts is because ecw came back and they needed rvd as "THE MAN" but rvd ****ed up and keeps ****in up by refusing to do his job...he refuses to go to the iraq trips and im sure he's cocky and thinks since he's not being pushed why bother to show that he can be there top guy...
when was tripz the champ last?
taker...benoit etc etc..
but it seems like all these guys are still in the main event scene and why?? because of there work ethic...they give 110% every time there in the ring..how often does rvd botch half of his match? pretty often..
im w/ stu on this one and im w/ my previous prediction that once tna puts the belt on rvd and someone else bigger than rvd comes along rvd will be pushed aside for someone better...just like what's gonna happen to christian when angle wins the belt from him...
#22
Posted 30 January 2007 - 03:52 AM
Anyway, I love RVD, but Icon makes a lot of sense to me.
The way I see it... Fate sucks for RVD in WWE. Why? Well because RVD was #1 in ECW. Once he was brought to WWF, he no longer was #1. Now you have to consider that RVD works along many #1's. The Rock, Stone Cold, Triple H, Undertaker, + WCW talent from the Alliance Era in 2001. Fate caused RVD to be held back.
What could RVD do about it? All he could really do is give it his all. One day he would be given his time to shine even if it takes a long time. IMO, RVD is great enough to not even need a title. Is it the title he wants or just the main event spotlight?
Back then RVD was all about hardcore fighting guys in his own league like Tajiri, Rhyno, Justin Credible, Tommy Dreamer, & more. His league involved weapons and being hardcore. The fans quickly ate it up because WWF and WCW did not revolve around hardcore. They were two giants who had occasional hardcore bouts, but ECW was hardcore all the time. People love hardcore so that would explain the rise of ECW. On top of hardcore, being hardcore meant you have less restrictions, therefore your wrestling ability was a lot more flexible than in WCW or WWF. ECW gave you the chance to do all the fancy moves you could do. Fancy wrestling + hardcore style = EC F'N W! Don't get me wrong though because no where am I saying that there was no skill and talent involved. These wrestlers need to have skill to do what they did. Skill and hopes of not getting injured.
Ok, so now we established RVD's success and style. What happens when he is put in a ring with other greats? You have Undertaker, HHH, The Rock, Austin, Jericho, Benoit, Booker T, & Many more! RVD doesn't stand out anymore. RVD was much like Rey Mysterio. Rey EARNED the right to be a World Champion but because other top dogs were around, he was always pushed away from being champ. It wasn't until Eddie's death that WWE felt "it's now or never" to give Rey a title run. Same applies with RVD. When ECW started back up, WWE was generous as hell to push RVD as the #1 guy for the return of ECW. Once again it was a "now or never" time. The resurrection of ECW was the best time to give him a title run. WWE was behind RVD more than we think. They made him win a Money In The Bank match at WM22 which means something.
I've always been behind RVD becoming the next champ. For many years I have wondered why hasn't he become champ yet? When I think real hard about what RVD has done in WWE ... I can't help but agree with keeping him as a mid-carder and winning the IC title. I've always expected RVD to be champ based on his past credibility and I was wrong all along. He should earn the title and not have it handed just because he was great on another brand.
Also, RVD is probably capable of some blockbuster matches but because he is in WWE, he can't show off as much. We must remember that WWE is a safer wrestling environment. They ban moves to minimize the injury rate whereas TNA is the small dog trying to get on the map. That means TNA won't put limits because limits won't help them grow. If TNA became a WCW, then they may think about adding limits if they want to make sure they have their top talent ready to compete with WWE.
Overall, as it is, RVD would fit better in the X-Division of TNA so he can be great again. I don't care for him to be champ, I just want him to be great.
#23
Posted 30 January 2007 - 09:40 AM
#24 Guest_Stu_*
Posted 30 January 2007 - 09:58 AM
Title reigns mean squat. Mr. Perfect is a prime example. Was he ever WWE champion? Was he hell. Was Roddy Piper? No. What about Dean Malenko? Does that make them bad wrestlers? If anyone came to me and said those three were bad wrestlers I'd slap them, I really would. So, RVD being former IC Champion and WWE Champion means nothing to me on whether they are good wrestlers or not.
Cena is a credible champion. He's been booked magnificently for years to allow him to be the greatest money bringer despite him being a limited wrestler. I really don't see how its the same stuff for years. Two nights ago at the Royal Rumble was a primed example. Cena stepped up, as did Umaga (no spoilers here for people who didn't see it). That was a GREAT match. And when was the last time Cena got busted for drugs as champion?
RVD ****ed up his own chance at the main title - not WWE.
#25
Posted 30 January 2007 - 12:14 PM
RVD isnt championsip material...But Lashley and Test are? This is a crock of shit, and you know it.
Many years? Randy Orton was bsuted smoking a joint in the back last year.....And now look, he is more than likely going to main event Mania....The only reason Vince is using RVD's pot use as the excuse is becuase it went public.
Look at the facts!
FOR ****S SAKE! Vince rocks the ******* ROIDS! And all of a sudden it was POT that ruined RVD's chance....Whatever, he will be better in TNA.......And **** the WWE, Vince is flushing his own company down the shitter right now....I can barely keep myself on one channel long enough to watch any WWE product now. It's all gone down the shitter.