smackdown is starting to get really bad
#26
Posted 27 July 2006 - 05:00 PM
#27
Posted 27 July 2006 - 05:07 PM
live4this, on Jul 27 2006, 06:00 PM, said:
#28
Posted 27 July 2006 - 05:14 PM
#29
Posted 27 July 2006 - 05:15 PM
live4this, on Jul 27 2006, 06:14 PM, said:
The thing is...Kane'd only be a short-term champ, if he even gets the belt, because he, like Taker (and for RAW/DX, HBK) is set to retire in 2007.
And Henry WILL return eventually, no doubt, and WILL be back into the title hunt.
Many people that are in--or surpass--Henry's level of competition are more well-rounded and have better gimmicks, whereas for Henry, he lacks a credible gimmick to get him over & he's only about power...which is his downfall, because when one only has one setting (i.e. can only do so much and has only one style of moves), many fans look down upon that as a lack of actual ability.
Edited by wwfpooh, 27 July 2006 - 05:19 PM.
#30
Posted 27 July 2006 - 05:21 PM
#31
Posted 27 July 2006 - 05:26 PM
live4this, on Jul 27 2006, 06:21 PM, said:
#32
Posted 27 July 2006 - 05:29 PM
#33
Posted 27 July 2006 - 05:34 PM
macman, on Jul 27 2006, 06:29 PM, said:
#34
Posted 27 July 2006 - 05:45 PM
They put on good lenghty matches which is what i want to see.
I hope Sd! people that are being taken off the road are ok and don't got that hepatitis.
#35
Posted 27 July 2006 - 05:55 PM
//A.E., on Jul 27 2006, 06:45 PM, said:
They put on good lenghty matches which is what i want to see.
I hope Sd! people that are being taken off the road are ok and don't got that hepatitis.
#36
Posted 27 July 2006 - 05:57 PM
I meant that they put on some good lengthy matches
I didn't mean they were all good.
Edited by //A.E., 27 July 2006 - 05:58 PM.
#37 Guest_Stu_*
Posted 27 July 2006 - 05:58 PM
#38
Posted 27 July 2006 - 06:00 PM
~ The Hitman ~, on Jul 27 2006, 06:58 PM, said:
#39 Guest_Stu_*
Posted 27 July 2006 - 06:03 PM
The best part of the match: not the stunner at the end, but the crowd chanting "nah nah nah nah - goodbye" to Brock and "you sold out" to Bill. It was amazing because at one point I swear to god Lesnar was nearly in tears.
Mind you, I'd welcome Lesnar back into WWE with open arms.
P.S. You forgot that Goldberg also was on his way out (that was both of their last matches)
#40
Posted 27 July 2006 - 06:19 PM
#41
Posted 27 July 2006 - 06:53 PM
~ The Hitman ~, on Jul 27 2006, 07:03 PM, said:
The best part of the match: not the stunner at the end, but the crowd chanting "nah nah nah nah - goodbye" to Brock and "you sold out" to Bill. It was amazing because at one point I swear to god Lesnar was nearly in tears.
Mind you, I'd welcome Lesnar back into WWE with open arms.
P.S. You forgot that Goldberg also was on his way out (that was both of their last matches)
#42
Posted 27 July 2006 - 09:38 PM
#43
Posted 27 July 2006 - 09:52 PM
not counting miz.
Gymini's should be back soon,Boogeymans back in august,dunno about everyone else yet. Anyone Know if Mercury will be back shortly?
I'm also expecting to see hardcore Holly back soon as well
#44
Posted 27 July 2006 - 10:12 PM
wwfpooh, on Jul 27 2006, 06:15 PM, said:
live4this, on Jul 27 2006, 06:14 PM, said:
The thing is...Kane'd only be a short-term champ, if he even gets the belt, because he, like Taker (and for RAW/DX, HBK) is set to retire in 2007.
And Henry WILL return eventually, no doubt, and WILL be back into the title hunt.
Many people that are in--or surpass--Henry's level of competition are more well-rounded and have better gimmicks, whereas for Henry, he lacks a credible gimmick to get him over & he's only about power...which is his downfall, because when one only has one setting (i.e. can only do so much and has only one style of moves), many fans look down upon that as a lack of actual ability.
So i say he gets a title shot for havin # of moves over cena,and that its wrong for them to kill the kane vs kane storyline.i think they should of have the kane come back ,and did alittle more then just having kane unmask him and dont even show the dude face.
#45
Posted 28 July 2006 - 12:34 AM
#46 Guest_Stu_*
Posted 28 July 2006 - 02:39 AM
1. Cena is in no way on a losing streak. Carlito is on a losing streak. But Cena has won just this week on RAW!
2. Of course using very few moves downs your ability. Why do you think the likes of Triple H, Kurt Angle, Shawn Michaels, Bret Hart, Undertaker are considered the best in history? Because they can pull off new moves and aren't afraid to experiment.
3. How was it wrong to kill the Kane vs Kane storyline? The crowd were shouting boring, just as I would have done if I was at that match - and I'm not afraid to admit that.
4. The end of the storyline where Kane unmasked him was just to kill it off about two months before the scheduled end of the story.
5. No, Cena never became champion because of the "little kiddies". The guy became champion because of matches like at Vengeance 2003, No Mercy 2003, Survivor Series 2003, Backlash 2004, Wrestlemania XX. That is why he was given the shot because he had proven himself.
Rant over.
#47
Posted 28 July 2006 - 06:45 AM
~ The Hitman ~, on Jul 28 2006, 03:39 AM, said:
2. Of course using very few moves downs your ability. Why do you think the likes of Triple H, Kurt Angle, Shawn Michaels, Bret Hart, Undertaker are considered the best in history? Because they can pull off new moves and aren't afraid to experiment.
Rant over.
At first I didnt mind Cena but no I really do hate the guy for his matches and just seeing him overall.
He's ******* horrible in the ring, his delivery on punches are up there with Mike Knox's punching someone's shoulder.
Cena is ******* horrible at selling moves and don't give me the bullshit that its creative's fault because none of us knows ANY truth behind that. I sure as hell don't give creative all the blame like some of you do.
I studied a couple of Cena matches and noticed he did all the moves in the same order.
Not like a HBK order but his entire match.
WWE is aiming at a lower demographic which aint cutting for the 18-49 demographic.
I don't want to see some whack jack of a "soldier" try and cut a promo while trying to be funny. (don't give me the bullshit that is was creative because we don't even know)
The guy can be energetic but guess what? He is going to end like the other champs that were shoved down our throat.
He aint never going to be in the hall fame...Hell people will remember him in the light that Ultimate warrior is remember"just a WWE champion"
Good riddance to John Cena.
#48 Guest_Stu_*
Posted 28 July 2006 - 07:04 AM
He'll never be in the hall of fame? I'm sorry, but if you're WWE Champion for thirteen months running (minus three weeks to Edge), if you're undefeated at Wrestlemania - picking up two main event victories and winning three title matches - I think that should be sufficient. And since we still have at least ten years of John Cena, I think he's going to mount on that.
If you've ever seen a John Cena match from his early days, you'd be telling me something completely different. You wouldn't say he's a bad wrestler. You wouldn't even think about it. You'd say: "He's not as good as he used to be".
That is the bottom line - so all of this "Cena can't wrestle" stuff is, in the words of you: Bullshit.
#49
Posted 28 July 2006 - 07:27 AM
You guys can also aruge the fact that his raps were great. Wow rhyming really gets you over. :rolleyes:
You guys can say whatever you want about his old matches and I'll tell you I think he sucked back then. Couldn't sell for shit back then either.
I can also deny that those matches weren't all they were cracked up to be.
In the words of me again:
Cena can't wrestle.
Wanna se a real wrestler? Look at Bret Hart. He could tell a story as far as breaking an opponent down.
Edited by mark1, 28 July 2006 - 07:29 AM.
#50 Guest_Stu_*
Posted 28 July 2006 - 07:31 AM
Oh yeah, Bret Hart is a great wrestler - one of the best of all time - which is why he made it to number two on my favourite wrestlers list. But its a bit unfair to compare any wrestler (unless you're the likes of Angle or Shawn Michaels) to Bret Hart - when it comes to wrestling ability. Hell, if you compare Triple H to Bret Hart, you could say Triple H can't wrestle - when he damn sure can.